Name: HTTP 203: Libraries vs Frameworks (S3, Ep6)
Uploaded: 2016-09-04T01:47:19.000Z
Duration: 4 min 51 s
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think a little bit further than you, since you started driving

I thought, since we went to the boozer in England,

Right, I kind of feel like, yeah, all right,

like we did the pub before, back in England,

but I do think this has a slightly better view.

I know it's red, or it's a clearish kind of color.

PAUL: And I have an upper limit of about five pounds, or $8.

And if it's more than that, it's probably not worth it.

I want to talk about libraries and frameworks.

Yes, because you're not big on the frameworks, are you?

JAKE: On the other hand, I am not big on the frameworks.

PAUL: Yeah, so I don't think there is going

But I do want to talk about it, because it bothers me

that I perceive that the default state of developers

is, I've got a blank page here, how am I going to fill it out?

JAKE: That is a problem I have with frameworks, that they have

Like, there's an expectation to use them from the offset.

And I think if you're thinking, what combination of frameworks

For me, it's entirely from a performance point of view.

If your page has to load a ton of JavaScript

in order to make a request for the actual data it's

going to display, You've lost performance.

And you can sort of say, oh, but next time it's

You might have changed the code, busted the cache.

PAUL: And it's an assumption that somebody's

It's like paying a big hefty tax on the assumption you're

And stuff falls out of the cache all the time.

JAKE: Not the service worker cache, though.

JAKE: All right, come on, it's got a cache,

PAUL: OK, performance, that notwithstanding,

I think for me, it's about code ownership somehow.

It's about a level of trust that I don't necessarily feel.

able to feel like my application code is the thing that's

That I'm not running through something else,

JAKE: Well, running through something else

is fine, because that's what a library is, right?

and you're running through bits of library

JAKE: But that's fine, because if one of them