Name: Why the Marvel Cinematic Universe feels empty | Vox
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The Marvel Cinematic Universe is overrated.

OK, so why is this not just a steaming pile of clickbait?

So far, there have been twenty of these movies.

And uber-producer Kevin Feige says there'll be at least 20 more in the MCU — Marvel Cinematic Universe — within the next 10 years.

Seriously, half of these people could disappear and it would still be 148 too many characters.

When we asked Vox's audience for things they think are overrated, Marvel and DC's movies came up again and again.

We love these movies - in the United States alone, they've grossed more than 6.5 billion dollars.

When you look at the history of fictional universes — and at the MCU in particular — it's possible to understand how it could be fixed.

Go back to 1939 and you'll find the likely birth of the Marvel Universe.

These characters aren't that well-known today.

But here, Betty tells Namor that The Human Torch exists — establishing continuity and crossover potential.

This was the start of a new era — one in which corporations produced fiction.

The idea was simple — you could use the fame of one property to enhance the audience for another.

And Marvel wasn't alone in recognizing the financial opportunity of crossovers in the 1930s and 40s.

The man on that horse is one of your ancestors.”

In the 1940s, The Green Hornet revealed that the series' central character, Britt Reid, was the grandnephew of The Lone Ranger, another popular radio star at the time.

“I hope you do something about those crooks — just as your pioneer ancestor did.”

Movie studios were thinking about this too —when Abbott and Costello met Frankenstein, it joined the Dracula, Frankenstein, and Wolfman movie franchises with a goofy comedy.

It was basically Universal Studios' Avengers Infinity War, but with more running into walls.

By the 60s, even DC comics was catching up, like when Superman entered his fortress of solitude and finally met Batman.

By the time Spiderman got his comic in 1963, he was spending time with the Fantastic Four and promoting guest appearances from the Hulk.

And this was also when the Marvel Universe's problems started.

This snowglobe contains a half-century of television.

It's the basis for the Tommy Westphall Universe theory, which some argue might be the biggest fictional universe of all.

The snowglobe appeared on the '80s television show St. Elsewhere.

That scene possibly showed that the whole series had taken place inside a snowglobe world imagined by a minor character named Tommy Westphall.

The theory is that if a show had a crossover with St. Elsewhere, that show must have taken place in Tommy's snowglobe too.

And every crossover that show had, no matter how tangential, would be in the snowglobe, and so on and so on, until you get almost 450 television shows in the same universe, in the same snowglobe.

That said, the Tommy Westphall universe actually illustrates some of the problems with the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Crossovers require a bunch of artistic compromises.

No one wants "Cheers" and "I Love Lucy" to be a connected universe.

It's because a bunch of business decisions connected them.

Sometimes, the network forced crossovers on producers, other times, the producers came up with it.

Garry Marshall said that the reason that Mork from Ork knew Fonzie from "Happy Days" and Laverne from "Laverne and Shirley" was because his son said that Fonzie should dream about an alien.

These crossovers are always about juicing ratings, not telling a good story.

The Tommy Westphall universe is a thought experiment.

"Frasier" and "The X-Files" don't mix, even though they do in Tommy Westphall's globe.

But even at Marvel, where continuity was planned, it became a hassle to maintain.

Marvel editor and writer Len Wein said, “The problem at Marvel was that we suddenly became a business with a bunch of books that Stan, [Lee] don't think, ever in his heart expected to last more than a couple of years.”

In 1965, Lee replaced most of the Avengers just because the continuity for the original group had become too confusing to deal with.

This continuity clutter happened in the movies, too.

The universe exposition dump didn't happen until after the credits.

“Mr. Stark, you've become part of a bigger universe.”

"Ant Man" required a weak excuse right in the middle of the movie.

“I think our first move should be calling the Avengers."

“I spent half my life trying to keep this technology out of the hands of the Stark.

I'm sure as hell am not gonna hand deliberately to one now.”

These heavy-handed additions are about getting crossover hype, not about telling a good story.

But there's a bigger problem than continuity in the MCU — and there is a way to do it better.

The rest of this scene is a standard movie fight.

Their universe is only as deep as some merchandise and a few Easter Eggs.

It's cool when Peter Parker's classroom has a picture of Bruce Banner in the corner.

It's like Quentin Tarantino including the imaginary brand of Red Apple cigarettes in multiple movies.

The MCU is like our own, except for the crossovers.

If you didn't know DC owned him, would anyone notice?

The MCU has no rules beyond corporate ownership.

If you added Hawkeye here, nobody would care.

Marvel's own property  —  X-Men, with a movie universe owned by Fox and likely going to Disney — shows a better way.

Every character, human and mutant, has taken sides in a generations-long battle, with real stakes, unlike Marvel's Civil War.

That leads to creative possibilities, like decade-jumping and even tonal experimentation with deep integration to the X-Men mythology, if not the continuity.

When Marvel experiments, like with Jessica Jones, the big tie-in to the MCU is...merch.

“Do you have any cool toys in your room you want to show me?”

X-Men movies are not all good, but they do have a universal logic that is stronger than Tommy Westphall's snowglobe.

If you — little old you — were in a movie, which universe would change you?

In X-Men, you'd have to decide where you fell in a decades-long battle.

In the MCU, you'd be like this kid in Agents of Shield — your big decision would be to buy some merch.

Marvel has flirted with a richer universe, one in which the lives of all people are transformed by a shared history.

But right now, would anybody be surprised if Disney forced a Marvel/Star Wars crossover?

Marvel and Disney can make the right choice.

In the late 80s, the Marvel comic Damage Control toyed with the consequences of superhero life on the world at large.

That made its cameo in Spiderman: Homecoming a thrilling indicator of where the MCU could go.

It was a world that anybody could imagine themselves in.